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RE: set output DAR lags to prores - Selur - 16.05.2023

Send you a link to a dev version which allows larger values for PAR (width/height).

Cu Selur

RE: set output DAR lags to prores - lessbones - 18.05.2023

seems to be working great-- thank you!

RE: set output DAR lags to prores - lessbones - 24.05.2023

Ok, it seems like I lied-- I'm not sure why I thought it was working the first time around, maybe it was VLC being forced into 4:3 mode.  I'm not sure if i'm entering it wrong-- I've been checking the box to force ITU 601, and inputting 38800x42651 in the "input PAR" fields.  I haven't been using "convert to output PAR" because I don't want it to actually do any scaling in the encoding process, just force a pixel ratio, but it's still coming out 1:1.

RE: set output DAR lags to prores - Selur - 24.05.2023

According to the encoding call:
"C:\Program Files\Hybrid\64bit\Vapoursynth\vspipe.exe" "E:\encodingTempSynthSkript_2023-05-24@11_05_07_6410_0.vpy" - -c y4m | C:\Program Files\Hybrid\64bit\ffmpeg.exe" -y -noautorotate -nostdin -threads 8 -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -an -sn -vf zscale=rangein=tv:range=tv -pix_fmt yuv422p10le -strict -1 -vsync 0 -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 1 -vtag apcs -metadata encoding_tool="Hybrid 2023.05.16.1" -aspect 1.3673770840 -f mov "E:\CP_Hi8_677_1_2023-05-24@11_05_07_6410_03.mov"
The aspect ratio (DAR) is signaled as 1.367377084.
in the later call:
"C:\Program Files\Hybrid\64bit\Vapoursynth\vspipe.exe" "E:\encodingTempSynthSkript_2023-05-24@11_57_27_5310_0.vpy" - -c y4m | "C:\Program Files\Hybrid\64bit\ffmpeg.exe" -y -noautorotate -nostdin -threads 8 -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -an -sn -vf zscale=rangein=tv:range=tv -pix_fmt yuv422p10le -strict -1 -vsync 0 -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 1 -vtag apcs -metadata encoding_tool="Hybrid 2023.05.16.1" -aspect 45:33 -f mov "E:\ClP_1_new_1_2023-05-24@11_57_27_5310_03.mov"
45:33 is used.

Did you check the Vapoursynth Preview?
Out of curiosity, if you set audio&video to passthrough and change the output par through Muxing->Overwrite->Pixel Aspect Ratio, does that change the way your player plays it?

Cu Selur

RE: set output DAR lags to prores - lessbones - 25.05.2023

So yes, it does change the display on output when I set everything to passthrough and force the PAR in muxing:

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : FFV1
Codec ID                                 : V_MS/VFW/FOURCC / FFV1
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Width                                    : 720 pixels
Height                                   : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 4:3
Frame rate mode                          : Constant

but now I'm really confused, because again it worked by inputting the values and encoding to prores.  Is it possible that if I'm adding a bunch of videos all at once, it's only applying the output PAR to the first one I set up?

I closed and reopened hybrid this time and it worked as expected-- and this time for the single video I ran the aspect is indeed stated as:

MainCall: "C:\Program Files\Hybrid\64bit\ffmpeg.exe" -y -noautorotate -nostdin -threads 8 -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -an -sn -vf zscale=rangein=tv:range=tv -pix_fmt yuv422p10le -strict -1 -vsync 0 -vcodec prores_ks -profile:v 1 -vtag apcs -metadata encoding_tool="Hybrid 2023.05.16.1" -aspect 1.3674490730 -f mov "E:\ClP_3_new_1_2023-05-24@17_55_29_3010_03.mov"

I think it must be that it's only applying to the first video when a batch is added?

RE: set output DAR lags to prores - Selur - 25.05.2023

Are you overwriting the input or the output PAR?
Input PAR gets changed on source change unless "Crop/Resize->Misc->Resizing->Ignore input PAR" is set.
You might also have to set "Crop/Resize->Misc->On Source Change->Overwrite input PAR".
Output PAR should stay the same when using multiple files.

Cu Selur

RE: set output DAR lags to prores - humanoid86 - 25.05.2023

(25.05.2023, 07:36)Selur Wrote: Are you overwriting the input or the output PAR?
Input PAR gets changed on source change unless "Crop/Resize->Misc->Resizing->Ignore input PAR" is set.
You might also have to set "Crop/Resize->Misc->On Source Change->Overwrite input PAR".
Output PAR should stay the same when using multiple files.

Cu Selur

look https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YPCtX_91Z8ZnXCD3jpzhXbb_oTXOc8C3/view?usp=share_link

RE: set output DAR lags to prores - Selur - 25.05.2023

Hmm,..
Since "Crop/Resize->Misc->Resizing->Adjust keep resize for source" is enabled by default, this might cause problems.
Try setting a resize with other than 48 or disable "Crop/Resize->Misc->Resizing->Adjust keep resize for source" and see if that helps.

Cu Selur

RE: set output DAR lags to prores - lessbones - 25.05.2023

ok great!  this is exactly what I was looking for.  With those two options activated (the overwrite input PAR set to 38800x42651) it's behaving exactly as I'd like it to.  I have a few hundred captures to convert, so I'm fine with the settings being locked in for this format for a while.  Also, I was always changing the input PAR, never the output in order to avoid any scaling, so this setup is perfect now.

Thank you!

RE: set output DAR lags to prores - humanoid86 - 26.05.2023

Mr Selur
Please help
downloaded the video
looked at "MediaInfo"

How to make deinterlace?

Video
ID                                      : 1
Format                                  : MPEG Video
Format version                          : Version 2
Format profile                          : Main@High
Format settings                          : CustomMatrix / BVOP
Format settings, BVOP                    : Yes
Format settings, Matrix                  : Custom
Format settings, GOP                    : M=3, N=15
Format settings, picture structure      : Frame
Codec ID                                : mp4v-61
Duration                                : 9 min 37 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                : 13.5 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                        : 20.0 Mb/s
Width                                    : 1 440 pixels
Height                                  : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio                    : 16:9
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                              : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                      : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Interlaced
Scan type, store method                  : Separated fields (2 fields per block)
Scan order                              : Top Field First
Compression mode                        : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                      : 0.290
Time code of first frame                : 23:31:33;01
Time code source                        : Group of pictures header
GOP, Open/Closed                        : Open
Stream size                              : 933 MiB (98%)
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709

(2 fields per block) = telecine + topFF + topFFwithBoB = have not helped