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Integrate FFT3DGPU 10 bit hack in Hybrid to reduce banding with 4K stuff? - mogobime - 04.01.2023
Hi,
unfortunately, the only mode of operation with fft3dgpu that produces almost no banding is mode 2 with precision 0 (and a border of 2-4 and best wintype=2 and sharpen turned off).
As you know, precision=0 does not work properly with 4K stuff in any mode and creates grid artefacts that destroy the material. Therefore you have to live with the banding of precision=1 / 2, especially if you use higher sigma values than 1.5.
However, I have found a quite good solution to the problem. Apparently, the 32 bit floats only seem to handle 10 bit input reasonably, so a simple prefix "ConvertBits(10)" is enough to fight the banding. This works in mode 1 as well as in mode 2.
Even if you then convert back to 8 bit, the banding is reduced, if you encode with 10 bit it is practically eradicated and you achieve unimagined quality and significantly improved compressibility, even if you use low sigma values like 1.3, which hardly causes any loss of image sharpness.
With 4K material, the speed loss is only about 10-15% compared to precision=2 and is therefore tolerable. With material up to WQHD (1440p) it is somewhat higher, but there, as I said, mode=2 works with precision=0, which also hardly produces any banding.
1.) I think a "HQ 10 bit 4K filtering" or similar option, that explains the problem with grid artefacts and banding, would be a good thing?!?
2.) Also an option to set prefetch(1,2) - prefetch(1,7) after the FTFT3DGPU call would boost speed significantly in many use cases, for example when prefetch is set to 2-5 at the end of the script.
3.) Also bw + bh=64 would be the better default setting for the banding free mode 2. Increases speed by almost 100% for me at 1080p and 500% at 4K with ConvertBits(10)! Generally mode 1+2 seem to benefit from bw+bh=64. Maybe this could be realized with an "auto" setting which switches to bw + bh=64 when >WQHD stuff is detected or generally if mode 2 is active (it doesn't necessarily have to be the default setting).
With the explained tricks, FFT3DGPU achieves at least the quality of KNLMeansCL with significantly higher speed and better compressibility of the video material. It would be a shame if the vast majority of users were deprived of this!
RE: Integrate FFT3DGPU 10 bit hack in Hybrid to reduce banding with 4K stuff? - mogobime - 05.01.2023
A few comparisions between KNLMeansCL(Strength increased by 50% from 1,2 to 1,80) and FFT3DGPU (Sigma reduced by 35% from 2.0 to 1.3) - both filtering YUV:
1080p:
KNLMeansCL: 27.14 fps, 7312.13 kbps
FFT3DGPU mode=2 precision=0: 57.18 fps (+111% faster), 6618.81 kbps (-9,5%)
2160p (downscaled by lanczos to 1080p after filtering):
KNLMeansCL 7.49 fps, 7143.20 kbps
ConvertBits(10) FFT3DGPU mode=2 precision=2: 11.98 fps (+60% faster), 6369.00 kbps (-10,8%)
ConvertBits(10) FFT3DGPU mode=1 precision=2: 15.47 fps (+107% faster), 6495.53 kbps (-9,1%)
All described tunings added to FFT3DGPU ( ConvertBits(10) @ 4K, bw+bh=64, wintype=2 and Prefetch(1,7) )
Encoder settings:
NVEncC (x64) 7.06 (r2388) by rigaya, Dec 10 2022 12:26:56 (VC 1929/Win)
OS Version Windows 10 x64 (19043) [UTF-8]
CPU AMD FX(tm)-8350 Eight-Core Processor [4.54GHz] (4C/8T)
GPU #0: NVIDIA RTX A2000 (3328 cores, 1200 MHz)[PCIe2x16][527.27]
NVENC / CUDA NVENC API 12.0, CUDA 12.0, schedule mode: sync
Input Buffers CUDA, 46 frames
Input Info y4m(yv12(10bit))->p010 [SSE2], 1920x1080, 60000/1001 fps
Vpp Filters copyHtoD
Output Info H.265/HEVC main10 @ Level 6.2
1920x1080p 1:1 59.940fps (60000/1001fps)
Encoder Preset quality
Rate Control VBR
Multipass none
Bitrate 0 kbps (Max: 768000 kbps)
Target Quality 25.75
Initial QP I:20 P:23 B:25
QP Offset cb:0 cr:0
VBV buf size auto
Lookahead on, 32 frames, Adaptive I, B Insert
GOP length 600 frames
B frames 5 frames [ref mode: middle]
Ref frames 7 frames, MultiRef L0:6 L1:2
AQ on
CU max / min auto / auto
VUI matrix:bt709,range:limited
Others mv:Q-pelSome suboptimal FFT3DGPU default settings:
2160p:
FFT3DGPU untuned default with banding (no additional prefetch(1,7), no ConvertBits(10)), fastest setting without picture errors, mode=1, precision=1, bw+bh=32, wintype=1:
12.23 fps, 6451.48 kbps (improved mode 1 is 26,5% faster)
FFT3DGPU untuned default with banding (no additional prefetch(1,7), no ConvertBits(10)), fastest setting without picture errors, mode=1, precision=2, bw+bh=32, wintype=1 (precision=2 doesn't reduce banding, only "0" does->grid errors):
11.94 fps, 6456.07 kbps (improved mode 1 with ConvertBits(10), prefetch(1,7) and bw+bh=64 is 29,6% faster)
1080p:
FFT3DGPU untuned mode=2, precision=0 (no additional prefetch(1,7), bw+bh=32, wintype=1):
29.66 fps, 4372.59 kbps (improved mode 2 with prefetch(1,7) and bw+bh=64 is 92,8% faster)
->Prefetch becomes more important, if other multithreaded filters that need more resources like a simple resizer follow after FFT3DGPU.
RE: Integrate FFT3DGPU 10 bit hack in Hybrid to reduce banding with 4K stuff? - Selur - 05.01.2023
Okay, so as a workaround atm. one would use a custom section with:
ConvertBit(10)
# bitdepth 10
I'll look into adding a bitdepth option to FFFT3DGPU.
Cu
Selur
RE: Integrate FFT3DGPU 10 bit hack in Hybrid to reduce banding with 4K stuff? - Selur - 05.01.2023
send you a link to a dev version which allows to specify an input bit depth for FFT3DGPU
Cu
Selur