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Mp4 video frames stutter after conversion from mkv in Hybrid - lostsnowboardvideos - 10.07.2024

Hello everyone, first poster, long time searcher. I have run into an issue converting a large collection of old snowboarding videos from mkv to mp4 recently. I am currently using MakeMKV to extract the main title file from the DVDs and running them through Hybrid. I read the info section about what's asked when reporting a problem and I apologize in advance, I do not have a script of the settings I used in hybrid (could not figure out how to produce it). I can only post a short clip of one of the chapters I encoded from the mkv to show what I am talking about. Searched all the boards here for this issue and nothing really comes up.

My problem is this: the attached video stutters after encoding in certain sections. I compared it to the mkv file and the mkv does not do this. I deinterlaced using Avisynth QTGMC bob x64 in Hybrid with KNLmeans default, QTGMC slower preset. x264 very slow preset, CRF 19, scaled up to 1440x1080. Output is x264 mp4, 59.94fps, 1440x1080 aac audio. I tried this with different audio outputs because I thought it might have something to do with matching the audio to the video but it all produced the same results. The only thing I haven't tried is keeping the fps the same as the input but I've not had this issue going from interlaced to progressive with other interlaced videos. Hybrid tells me the original file is bottom field first and ffprobe  confirms this so I left that setting alone as well.

If you go to about 20 seconds in, you can see what I am talking about.

My question would be is there a setting in the filters or frame settings that I need to toggle to eliminate this problem?




RE: Mp4 video frames stutter after conversion from mkv in Hybrid - Selur - 10.07.2024

You could cut the mkv with mkvtoolnix gui and share a small sample which allows reproducing the problem.
Without having a sample of the source and no debug output of what Hybrid analyzed and used, I can only guess:
If your source was flagged with the wrong field order, you could overwrite the field order to the correct value.
If the source is mixed content (mix of interlaced (tff, bff) and maybe telecined and progressive) depending on source Hybrid can't really help and a custom script would be needed.

Cu Selur


RE: Mp4 video frames stutter after conversion from mkv in Hybrid - lostsnowboardvideos - 10.07.2024

Not sure why I'm having issues attaching files directly to this board but here's another Vimeo link to the original chapter from the MKV that was tested. Used mkvtoolnix to clip it.

Also included the ffprobe text file.
Last login: Tue Jul  9 12:17:42 on ttys000
richmadrid@Richs-MacBook-Air ~ % cd downloads
richmadrid@Richs-MacBook-Air downloads % ffprobe -i b1_t00.mkv
ffprobe version 7.0.1 Copyright (c) 2007-2024 the FFmpeg developers
  built with Apple clang version 15.0.0 (clang-1500.1.0.2.5)
  configuration: --prefix=/usr/local/Cellar/ffmpeg/7.0.1 --enable-shared --enable-pthreads --enable-version3 --cc=clang --host-cflags= --host-ldflags='-Wl,-ld_classic' --enable-ffplay --enable-gnutls --enable-gpl --enable-libaom --enable-libaribb24 --enable-libbluray --enable-libdav1d --enable-libharfbuzz --enable-libjxl --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopus --enable-librav1e --enable-librist --enable-librubberband --enable-libsnappy --enable-libsrt --enable-libssh --enable-libsvtav1 --enable-libtesseract --enable-libtheora --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvmaf --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvpx --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxml2 --enable-libxvid --enable-lzma --enable-libfontconfig --enable-libfreetype --enable-frei0r --enable-libass --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libspeex --enable-libsoxr --enable-libzmq --enable-libzimg --disable-libjack --disable-indev=jack --enable-videotoolbox --enable-audiotoolbox
  libavutil      59.  8.100 / 59.  8.100
  libavcodec     61.  3.100 / 61.  3.100
  libavformat    61.  1.100 / 61.  1.100
  libavdevice    61.  1.100 / 61.  1.100
  libavfilter    10.  1.100 / 10.  1.100
  libswscale      8.  1.100 /  8.  1.100
  libswresample   5.  1.100 /  5.  1.100
  libpostproc    58.  1.100 / 58.  1.100
Input #0, matroska,webm, from 'b1_t00.mkv':
  Metadata:
    encoder         : libmakemkv v1.17.7 (1.3.10/1.5.2) win(x64-release)
    creation_time   : 2024-07-10T03:35:24.000000Z
  Duration: 00:41:20.64, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 7389 kb/s
  Chapters:
    Chapter #0:0: start 0.000000, end 169.369200
      Metadata:
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    Chapter #0:1: start 169.369200, end 354.554200
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  Stream #0:0(eng): Video: mpeg2video (Main), yuv420p(tv, bottom first), 704x480 [SAR 10:11 DAR 4:3], 7000 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 1k tbn
      Metadata:
        BPS-eng         : 6999957
        DURATION-eng    : 00:41:20.644833333
        NUMBER_OF_FRAMES-eng: 74345
        NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 2170550421
        SOURCE_ID-eng   : 0100E0
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        _STATISTICS_WRITING_DATE_UTC-eng: 2024-07-10 03:35:24
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      Side data:
        cpb: bitrate max/min/avg: 7000000/0/0 buffer size: 1835008 vbv_delay: N/A
  Stream #0:1(eng): Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, stereo, fltp, 384 kb/s (default)
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        NUMBER_OF_BYTES-eng: 119072256
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RE: Mp4 video frames stutter after conversion from mkv in Hybrid - Selur - 10.07.2024

You can't attach huge files here.
You need to upload it somewhere, where you can share a link.
Going to bed now.

Cu Selur


RE: Mp4 video frames stutter after conversion from mkv in Hybrid - lostsnowboardvideos - 11.07.2024

I got it to work. ran through the deinterlacing settings (qtgmc avisynth) in preview mode and figured out the bob setting, when checked, was causing it. not sure why as I had 2 other encodes after it on the same bob setting that didn't produce that result.


RE: Mp4 video frames stutter after conversion from mkv in Hybrid - Selur - 11.07.2024

Bob requires a correct field order.
If the field order changes somewhere in the stream (or was wrongly selected), bob will cause stuttering.

Cu Selur