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Mixed interlacing and frame blending – workflow recommendations?
#1
Hello,
I'm working on a PAL DVD source and I'm having trouble getting a clean encode.
The video appears to have interlacing issues and what looks like frame blending. I've tried several deinterlacing settings, but I can't seem to remove the artifacts without introducing new problems such as loss of detail, ghosting, or motion issues.
At this point I'm not sure whether the source is simply interlaced, field-blended, or affected by a PAL conversion process.
Could anyone take a look and advise me on the best approach? In particular, I'd like to know:
  • How to correctly identify the type of issue present in the source.
  • Which filters or settings should be enabled or disabled.
  • Whether deinterlacing alone is sufficient or if a more advanced restoration workflow is required.
  • Recommended settings for achieving the cleanest possible encode.
I've attached sample screenshots and/or a short sample clip.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Sample: http://titant.free.fr/tmp/LH01.mkv
Screenshot:     

PS: Selur, you've helped me in the past and I know you're very knowledgeable about this kind of issue. I'm sure you'll be able to point me in the right direction and help me figure out the proper solution.
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#2
Since when bobbing each frame is doubled the source isn't interlaced, but field shifted.
Looking at the separated fields, you see those are messed up.
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=> I'm looking at it.
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#3
Problem is that since the fields are already messed up there is not much you can really do.

Try
  • apply TFM
  • apply MCTemporalDenoise with preset "very high"
  • apply RemoveDirtMC
  • apply LumaSharpen with Strength 1.5, Pattern: Pyramid shaped
  • apply Toon
If the problem is just the intro you might want to restrict those filter so just the intro.
This is by no means perfect, but trying to fix this does not seem worth the effort.

Cu Selur
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Dev versions are in the 'experimental'-folder of my GoogleDrive, which is linked on the download page.
Offline between (including) 29th of June and 5th of July => RochHarz Festival
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#4
Since this source seems difficult to restore properly, I can also provide another source of the same content. It may be cleaner and easier to process, although it appears to have its own issues, including an unusual frame rate that I'm not entirely sure how to handle. 

Sample:  http://titant.free.fr/tmp/LH01b.mkv
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#5
something is wrong with the link
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Dev versions are in the 'experimental'-folder of my GoogleDrive, which is linked on the download page.
Offline between (including) 29th of June and 5th of July => RochHarz Festival
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#6
try this: http://titant.free.fr/tmp/LH02.mkv
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#7
For that the input frame rate should be 29.970029 (Filtering->Misc->Overwrite Input->Frame rate) and the content is telecined (Overwrite scan type).
Also, the chroma is shifted in the first scenes and not the second.
(ChromaShiftSP(clip, X=2.00, jeh=False) works fine, when it's shifted, so you should configure Hybrid only shift the chroma on the first scene

Cu Selur
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Dev versions are in the 'experimental'-folder of my GoogleDrive, which is linked on the download page.
Offline between (including) 29th of June and 5th of July => RochHarz Festival
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#8
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Thanks a lot, my friend! Really appreciate it.
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