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Thank you for the quick reply.  I think my sequence needs a starting shift.  What happened if instead of 0 1 2 3 4 4  the frames are 0 1 1 2 3 4 or 0 1 2 3 3 4.  What is the syntax to enter this in the field?
"0 1 1 2 3 4" = skip second frame out of 6, so "0 1 3 4 5"
"0 1 2 3 3 4" = skip forth frame out of 6, so "0 1 2 3 5"
The cycle size is the chunk size, and then you specify, which frame indices you want to keep.
If the pattern changes, use sRestore instead. (this is way slower)

Cu Selur
Practically all my LaserDisc recordings through my IOData GV-USB2 capture device are adding duplicate frames in bunches and in succession, although many frames for certain sections of the recording will not add any, according to the post-recording reports I've generated. I've attached screenshots of my settings in Hybrid for my post work.

Cu Selur: TIVTC with 23.976 as my designated CFR and TDecimate: Mode 7. Those settings are appropriate for originally telecined content, right?

And under the Frame tab, when selecting FillDuplicateFrames, I want Hybrid to add interpolated frames, right? Do my settings appear correct? Anything to tweak?
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Quote: Those settings are appropriate for originally telecined content, right?
yes, and they are not suited for captured content

Quote:when selecting FillDuplicateFrames, I want Hybrid to add interpolated frames, right?[/(quote]
yes
[quote]Do my settings appear correct? Anything to tweak?
Since it' a capture, there is probably some noise, so you should adjut the threshold. (enable 'debug' and use Vapoursynth Preview)

Cu Selur
Quote:they are not suited for captured content

Hmmm...well the LD transfers are taken directly from telecines. Are you implying that I have to select a different input scan type from the dropdown in V.S.? Film restorer John Meyer has proclaimed on various forums that performing an inverse telecine on a LD is an absolute necessity. I have to use a capture device. It's not like with a DVD in MakeMKV where I can just extract all the files from the disc. Even if was using a Domesday Duplicator, I would still need to capture the player's RF signal. I do need to convert 29.97 fps to 23.976. I thought I could apply Mode 7 in TDecimate. I am all confused  Huh

Quote:Since it' a capture, there is probably some noise, so you should adjut the threshold. (enable 'debug' and use Vapoursynth Preview)

Sure, I'll try the Preview. So, should I increase the threshold to the maximum of 0.999? Or would you not go that high? Do you have an optimal value that you target? What number should I not go over?

Thanks for all your input!
If you capture at 29.97 and your source is telecined, TIVTC usually is fine, but is will not help with the duplicate frames. (assuming there are more than there should be due to the telecine)

Quote: Sure, I'll try the Preview. So, should I increase the threshold to the maximum of 0.999? Or would you not go that high? Do you have an optimal value that you target? What number should I not go over?
You should adjust the value, so that only real duplicated get replaced. The debug option displays whether the original was used or whether rife was used,... often values around 0.001 to 0.01 are good, but it totally depends on the source.
Would need an unprocessed sample to give a proper advice what I would use.

Cu Selur
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