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Help configuring x265 like MediaInfo settings - Dannyongwc5 - 01.12.2019

Hi Selur, new user here, want to ask the general setting for x265 24 fps to same x265 but 60fps, quality remain the some or better.

I attached a text file for mediainfo, can you guide me the Gui setting? I tried few time to convert but crash with some error, my guess is wrong setting input, pls help, many tkys.

RE: Help configuring x265 like MediaInfo settings - Selur - 01.12.2019

Hi.
I split your post into a new thread since it has nothing to do with the thread of murriato.

Quote:want to ask the general setting for x265 24 fps to same x265 but 60fps, quality remain the some or better.

Not possible, reencoding will always reduce the quality, unless you use lossless compression which will create huge file sizes.
Finding settings which on reencoding will produce better quality is not possible since you can't gain quality.
(It would probably be possible to find settings which would retain more of the original quality, if you have the original source from which your file was created.)

Quote:I attached a text file for mediainfo, can you guide me the Gui setting?

Looking at the attached MediaInfo data, there is the encoding settings info:

Encoding settings           : cpuid=1111039 / frame-threads=4 / numa-pools=16 / wpp / no-pmode / no-pme / no-psnr / no-ssim / log-level=2 / csv / csv-log-level=0 / input-csp=1 / input-res=1920x816 / interlace=0 / total-frames=156743 / level-idc=0 / high-tier=1 / uhd-bd=0 / ref=5 / no-allow-non-conformance / no-repeat-headers / annexb / no-aud / no-hrd / info / hash=0 / no-temporal-layers / no-open-gop / min-keyint=1 / keyint=360 / gop-lookahead=0 / bframes=9 / b-adapt=2 / b-pyramid / bframe-bias=0 / rc-lookahead=60 / lookahead-slices=4 / scenecut=40 / radl=0 / no-intra-refresh / ctu=32 / min-cu-size=8 / rect / no-amp / max-tu-size=16 / tu-inter-depth=2 / tu-intra-depth=2 / limit-tu=4 / rdoq-level=1 / dynamic-rd=0.00 / ssim-rd / signhide / no-tskip / nr-intra=0 / nr-inter=0 / no-constrained-intra / no-strong-intra-smoothing / max-merge=3 / limit-refs=2 / limit-modes / me=3 / subme=5 / merange=25 / temporal-mvp / weightp / weightb / no-analyze-src-pics / deblock=-1:-1 / no-sao / no-sao-non-deblock / rd=4 / no-early-skip / rskip / no-fast-intra / no-tskip-fast / no-cu-lossless / b-intra / no-splitrd-skip / rdpenalty=1 / psy-rd=0.00 / psy-rdoq=5.00 / no-rd-refine / no-lossless / cbqpoffs=-2 / crqpoffs=-2 / rc=crf / crf=20.0 / qcomp=0.70 / qpstep=4 / stats-write=0 / stats-read=0 / ipratio=1.40 / pbratio=1.30 / aq-mode=1 / aq-strength=0.80 / cutree / zone-count=0 / no-strict-cbr / qg-size=16 / no-rc-grain / qpmax=69 / qpmin=0 / no-const-vbv / sar=0 / overscan=0 / videoformat=5 / range=0 / colorprim=1 / transfer=2 / colormatrix=2 / chromaloc=0 / display-window=0 / max-cll=0,0 / min-luma=0 / max-luma=1023 / log2-max-poc-lsb=8 / vui-timing-info / vui-hrd-info / slices=1 / no-opt-qp-pps / no-opt-ref-list-length-pps / no-multi-pass-opt-rps / scenecut-bias=0.05 / no-opt-cu-delta-qp / no-aq-motion / no-hdr / no-hdr-opt / no-dhdr10-opt / no-idr-recovery-sei / analysis-reuse-level=5 / scale-factor=0 / refine-intra=0 / refine-inter=0 / refine-mv=0 / no-limit-sao / ctu-info=0 / no-lowpass-dct / refine-mv-type=0 / copy-pic=1 / max-ausize-factor=1.0 / no-dynamic-refine / no-single-sei

To start things up, I think it's a stupid idea to try to replicate these settings unless you want to append another video clip to this one. Reencoding a clip with the same (none-lossless) settings is usually a bad idea.
Also it will take quite some time to:
a. map each reported encoding setting first to an x265 option (see: https://x265.readthedocs.io/en/latest/cli.html and in the source code https://bitbucket.org/multicoreware/x265/src/default/source/common/param.cpp -> 'x265_print_params')
b. map each option to where that setting is in Hybrid
Back in 2015 I wrote a small tool (Mis2x265) which converts those 'Encoding settings' to normal command lines, but since the x265 options changed quite a bit since then it does not really help since a lot of options get ignored.
Here's the output of Mis2x265 for the reported 'Encoding settings'.

ignored: cpuid

ignored: frame-threads

ignored: numa-pools

ignored: pmode

ignored: psnr

ignored: ssim

ignored: log-level

ignored: csv

ignored: csv-log-level

ignored: input-csp

ignored: input-res

ignored: total-frames

ignored: level-idc

ignored: high-tier

ignored: uhd-bd

ignored: allow-non-conformance

ignored: repeat-headers

ignored: annexb

ignored: aud

ignored: info

ignored: hash

ignored: gop-lookahead

ignored: radl

ignored: intra-refresh

ignored: limit-tu

ignored: dynamic-rd

ignored: ssim-rd

ignored: nr-intra

ignored: nr-inter

ignored: limit-modes

ignored: analyze-src-pics

ignored: rskip

ignored: b-intra

ignored: splitrd-skip

ignored: rd-refine

ignored: crf

ignored: stats-write

ignored: stats-read

ignored: zone-count

ignored: strict-cbr

ignored: qg-size

ignored: rc-grain

ignored: const-vbv

ignored: sar

ignored: overscan

ignored: videoformat

ignored: range

ignored: colorprim

ignored: transfer

ignored: colormatrix

ignored: chromaloc

ignored: display-window

ignored: max-cll

ignored: min-luma

ignored: max-luma

ignored: log2-max-poc-lsb

ignored: vui-timing-info

ignored: vui-hrd-info

ignored: slices

ignored: opt-qp-pps

ignored: opt-ref-list-length-pps

ignored: multi-pass-opt-rps

ignored: scenecut-bias

ignored: opt-cu-delta-qp

ignored: aq-motion

ignored: hdr

ignored: hdr-opt

ignored: dhdr10-opt

ignored: idr-recovery-sei

ignored: analysis-reuse-level

ignored: scale-factor

ignored: refine-intra

ignored: refine-inter

ignored: refine-mv

ignored: limit-sao

ignored: ctu-info

ignored: lowpass-dct

ignored: refine-mv-type

ignored: copy-pic

ignored: max-ausize-factor

ignored: dynamic-refine

ignored: single-sei

x265 call:

x265 --wpp --no-pme --interlaceMode 0 --ref 5 --no-hrd --no-temporal-layers --no-open-gop --min-keyint 1 --keyint 360 --bframes 9 --b-adapt 2 --b-pyramid --bframe-bias 0 --rc-lookahead 60 --lookahead-slices 4 --scenecut 40 --ctu 32 --min-cu-size 8 --rect --no-amp --max-tu-size 16 --tu-inter-depth 2 --tu-intra-depth 2 --rdoq-level 1 --signhide --no-tskip --no-constrained-intra --no-strong-intra-smoothing --max-merge 3 --limit-refs 2 --me 3 --subme 5 --merange 25 --temporal-mvp --weightp --weightb --deblock -1:-1 --no-sao --no-sao-non-deblock --rd 4 --no-early-skip --no-fast-intra --no-tskip-fast --no-cu-lossless --rdpenalty 1 --psy-rd 0.00 --psy-rdoq 5.00 --no-lossless --cbqpoffs -2 --crqpoffs -2 --qcomp 0.70 --qpstep 4 --ipratio 1.40 --pbratio 1.30 --aq-mode 1 --aq-strength 0.80 --cutree --qpmax 69 --qpmin 0

Since it would take quite some time to write down a mapping to the gui for each of the options, I'm not going to look these up one by one and create such a mapping for you.
If you tried for yourself and you are unsure about a few mappings I can sure help you, but spending a few hours to go through all those settings would be a waste from my standpoint.

Quote:I tried few time to convert but crash with some error, my guess is wrong setting input, pls help, many tkys.

The settings should not cause a crash, so you probably stumbled over a bug.
So read https://forum.selur.net/Thread-INFO-Infos-needed-to-fix-reproduce-bugs thoroughly and share a debug output level 9 of the job processing with me, since without you providing detailed information I can't know what you did and where the problem is.
As a side note: There is a bug in the x265 which comes with rev 2019.11.23.1 which break 2pass encoding unless you enable 'x265->Rate Control->Rate Distortion Optimization->Scene cut aware quantization'. So in case you use 2pass encoding make sure to enable it.

Cu Selur

RE: Help configuring x265 like MediaInfo settings - Dannyongwc5 - 01.12.2019

Quote:I tried few time to convert but crash with some error, my guess is wrong setting input, pls help, many tkys.

RE: Help configuring x265 like MediaInfo settings - Selur - 01.12.2019

Seeing that you use Avisynth and that the decoder during the encoding call fails, check whether the 'Avisynth Preview' properly shows your video.
The Avisynth script looks like this:

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\LSMASHSource.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\svpflow1.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\svpflow2.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\masktools2.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\RgTools.dll")

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\warpsharp.dll")

Import("C:\Program Files\Hybrid\32bit\avisynthPlugins\InterFrame2.avsi")

Import("C:\Program Files\Hybrid\32bit\avisynthPlugins\LimitedSharpenFaster.avs")

SetFilterMTMode("DEFAULT_MT_MODE", MT_MULTI_INSTANCE)

# loading source: E:\迅雷下载\使徒行者.mkv

#  input color sampling YV12

#  input luminance scale tv

LWLibavVideoSource("E:\迅雷下载\使徒行者.mkv",cache=false,format="YUV420P16", prefer_hw=3,repeat=true)

# current resolution: 1920x816

# Dithering from 16 to 8bit for Interframe

ConvertBits(8)

InterFrame(NewNum=60,NewDen=1,OverrideAlgo=23,Cores=8)

# filtering

# sharpening

LimitedSharpenFaster(Smode=3,edgemode=0)

# scaling

Spline36Resize(1920,900)

# current resolution: 1920x900

# adjusting bit depth current 8 to target 10

# convert to 10bit for encoder

ConvertBits(10)

PreFetch(2)

return last

In case the preview fails with LWLibavVideoSource opening the video, try:
a. disabling 'Filtering->Avisynth->Misc->Sourcefilter Settings->prefer hw decoding'.
b. whether it helps to rename the video and folder to ascii characters.

Cu Selur

RE: Help configuring x265 like MediaInfo settings - Dannyongwc5 - 05.12.2019

Selur Wrote:Seeing that you use Avisynth and that the decoder during the encoding call fails, check whether the 'Avisynth Preview' properly shows your video.
The Avisynth script looks like this:

LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\LSMASHSource.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\svpflow1.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\svpflow2.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\masktools2.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\RgTools.dll") LoadPlugin("C:\PROGRA~1\Hybrid\32bit\AVISYN~1\warpsharp.dll") Import("C:\Program Files\Hybrid\32bit\avisynthPlugins\InterFrame2.avsi") Import("C:\Program Files\Hybrid\32bit\avisynthPlugins\LimitedSharpenFaster.avs") SetFilterMTMode("DEFAULT_MT_MODE", MT_MULTI_INSTANCE) # loading source: E:\迅雷下载\使徒行者.mkv # input color sampling YV12 # input luminance scale tv LWLibavVideoSource("E:\迅雷下载\使徒行者.mkv",cache=false,format="YUV420P16", prefer_hw=3,repeat=true) # current resolution: 1920x816 # Dithering from 16 to 8bit for Interframe ConvertBits(8) InterFrame(NewNum=60,NewDen=1,OverrideAlgo=23,Cores=8) # filtering # sharpening LimitedSharpenFaster(Smode=3,edgemode=0) # scaling Spline36Resize(1920,900) # current resolution: 1920x900 # adjusting bit depth current 8 to target 10 # convert to 10bit for encoder ConvertBits(10) PreFetch(2) return last
In case the preview fails with LWLibavVideoSource opening the video, try:
a. disabling 'Filtering->Avisynth->Misc->Sourcefilter Settings->prefer hw decoding'.
b. whether it helps to rename the video and folder to ascii characters.

Cu Selur

Hi, I just follow your advised to disable the prefer hw decoding, plus enble the prefer FFmpegsource to start the video encoding, no issue. Although take very long time to process, the video 60fps quality is superb, love the outcome, thanks.