output format

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Any plan to add uncompressed avi/mov/image sequence to output formats?
Such option is important because in many cases Avisynth/Vaporsynth is used for pre-processing videos for for further processing it
in AE/Premiere/FCP ... etc.

[Selur]

Any plan to add uncompressed avi/mov/image sequence to output formats?

Nope, uncompressed makes no sense to me at all.
Since Hybrid supports a bunch of lossless compression options:
(H.264 lossless, H.265 lossess, AV1 lossless, FFV1 (only supports YUV420 iirc), UT Video, FFvHuff)
Not planning to add image sequence output, since I don't see any value in it.

Such option is important because in many cases Avisynth/Vaporsynth is used for pre-processing videos for for further processing it
in AE/Premiere/FCP ... etc.

Don't those support any lossless compression formats?
I might be willing to support another lossless format if ffmpeg supports it or a free standalone command line encoder exists, but I do not see the use in uncompressed content.

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[serg]

Any plan to add uncompressed avi/mov/image sequence to output formats?

Nope, uncompressed makes no sense to me at all.
Since Hybrid supports a bunch of lossless compression options:
(H.264 lossless, H.265 lossess, AV1 lossless, FFV1 (only supports YUV420 iirc), UT Video, FFvHuff)
Not planning to add image sequence output, since I don't see any value in it.

Such option is important because in many cases Avisynth/Vaporsynth is used for pre-processing videos for for further processing it
in AE/Premiere/FCP ... etc.

Don't those support any lossless compression formats?
I might be willing to support another lossless format if ffmpeg supports it or a free standalone command line encoder exists, but I do not see the use in uncompressed content.

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Professional high-end video production facilities prefer image sequences.

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Still not going to support image sequences or raw video as output.
Image sequences and raw video simply makes not sense nowadays.
I didn't like it 20 years ago, but back then I understood why NLE tools would prefer it, but forcing users to use image sequences disqualifies tools in my book.

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[serg]

Still not going to support image sequences or raw video as output.
Image sequences and raw video simply makes not sense nowadays.
I didn't like it 20 years ago, but back then I understood why NLE tools would prefer it, but forcing users to use image sequences disqualifies tools in my book.

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But despite of the statement above "Hybrid" supports Image Sequence for input???
I'm lost in logic.
You could say Hybrid also support DVD and Blu-Ray for input but not for output.
Well, that's understandably - Blu-Ray and DVD represent containers,  while Image Sequence represent stream.

[Selur]

Image sequence support was added mainly to support the output of 3D rendering tools, there image sequences make sense since it might take quite a while to calculate just a single image of a render sequence. (that sadly has not really changed, especially if you need to visualize new developed rendering&co methods)
If video import and export would usually take minutes per frame Hybrid would probably just support image sequences.

Hybrid does not support DVD output since:
a. I have no clue how to properly calculate the overheads for vob files
b. I don't know any really good open source MPEG-2 encoder (only free cross-platform MPEG-2 encoder I'm aware of is the one in FFmpeg, I had hope for x262, but that one turned into a dead project)
c. I haven't created DVDs since before I started writing Hybrid.
d. my knowledge about DVD structures (especially menu structures) is really minimal

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Also calling something like:

ffmpeg -i  "path to video" -f image2 -vcodec png "E:\Output\%06d.png"

seems to be easy enough that folks can do it themselves.

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[serg]

Image sequence support was added mainly to support the output of 3D rendering tools, there image sequences make sense since it might take quite a while to calculate just a single image of a render sequence.  (that sadly has not really changed, especially if you need to visualize new developed rendering&co methods)
If video import and export would usually take minutes per frame Hybrid would probably just support image sequences.

Hybrid does not support DVD output since:
a. I have no clue how to properly calculate the overheads for vob files
b. I don't know any really good open source MPEG-2 encoder (only free cross-platform MPEG-2 encoder I'm aware of is the one in FFmpeg, I had hope for x262, but that one turned into a dead project)
c. I haven't created DVDs since before I started writing Hybrid.
d. my knowledge about DVD structures (especially menu structures) is really minimal

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Also calling something like:

ffmpeg -i  "path to video" -f image2 -vcodec png "E:\Output\%06d.png"

seems to be easy enough that folks can do it themselves.

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Yes I'm aware of that as well as about

ffmpeg -i "path to video" -an -vcodec rawvideo -y output.avi
... etc.

Can I incorporate such script in HYbrid suppressing default output?
Where I have to put it?

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Can I incorporate such script in HYbrid suppressing default output?
Where I have to put it?

No, you can't replace the default output with some random call.

Hybrid does have options which allow to call custom calls after a job or a queue finished, but those would probably require you to know the output name beforehand.
So if you knew each of your jobs would create 'E:\output.avi' you could:
Set "Jobs->Misc->On job finished" to "call external" and set "Jobs->Misc->On job finished->call external->at job finished external call" to

"c:\Program Files\Hybrid\64bit\ffmpeg.exe" -i  "E:\output.avi" -f image2 -vcodec png "E:\Output\output_%06d.png"

alternatively you could call a batch file or a another program to do whatever you want.

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Can I incorporate such script in HYbrid suppressing default output?
Where I have to put it?

No, you can't replace the default output with some random call.

Hybrid does have options which allow to call custom calls after a job or a queue finished, but those would probably require you to know the output name beforehand.
So if you knew each of your jobs would create 'E:\output.avi' you could:
Set "Jobs->Misc->On job finished" to "call external" and set "Jobs->Misc->On job finished->call external->at job finished external call" to

"c:\Program Files\Hybrid\64bit\ffmpeg.exe" -i  "E:\output.avi" -f image2 -vcodec png "E:\Output\output_%06d.png"

alternatively you could call a batch file or a another program to do whatever you want.

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 "Since Hybrid supports a bunch of lossless compression options:
(H.264 lossless, H.265 lossess, AV1 lossless, FFV1 (only supports YUV420 iirc), UT Video, FFvHuff)..."
I couldn't find  lossless compression options in none of them.
For example what I can specify in AV1 for lossless output

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For H.264 with x264:

• set "x264->Base->General Settings->Encoding mode" to "constant quantizer (1-pass)"
  
• set "x264->Base->General Settings->Restriction Settings->AVC Profile" to "High4:4:4" or "None"
  
• enable "x264->Base->General Settings->Lossless"
  

For AV1 with aomenc

• set "aomenc->Base->Encoding mode" to "lossless (1pass)"
  

For H.265 with x265:

• set "x265->Base->General Settings->Encoding mode" to "constant quantizer (1-pass)"
  
• enable "x264->Base->General Settings->Lossless"
  

For H.265 with NVEnc: (assuming your card supports it)

• set "NVEnc->Base->General Settings->Encoding mode" to "constant quantizer"
  
• enable "NVEnc->Base->General Settings->Lossless"
  

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