[HELP] 25i to 29.97i with interpolation

[Selur]

25p to 29.97i:

• loading a 25p source
  
• setting "Filtering->Vapoursynth->Misc->Script->Finter interlace handling' to 'QTGMC(preset="Fast")'.
  
• enabling "Filtering->Vapoursynth->Frame->Interpolation"
  
• setting "Filtering->Vapoursynth->Frame->Interpolation" to "Interframe/SVP"
  
• setting "Filtering->Vapoursynth->Frame->Interpolation->Interframe/SVP->FPS" to "59.94"
  
• setting "Filtering->Vapoursynth->Frame->Interpolation->Interframe/SVP->Tuning" to "smooth"
  
• enabling "Filtering->Vapoursynth->Frame->Interpolation->Interframe/SVP->GPU" (if your gpu is supported by SVP)
  
• settinng "Prores->Interlacing" to either 'top field first' or 'bottom field first'
  
• Vapoursynth script now looks like this:
  
  # Imports import vapoursynth as vs import os import sys # getting Vapoursynth core core = vs.core # Import scripts folder scriptPath = 'i:/Hybrid/64bit/vsscripts' sys.path.insert(0, os.path.abspath(scriptPath)) # Loading Plugins core.std.LoadPlugin(path="i:/Hybrid/64bit/vsfilters/FrameFilter/Interframe/svpflow2_vs64.dll") core.std.LoadPlugin(path="i:/Hybrid/64bit/vsfilters/FrameFilter/Interframe/svpflow1_vs64.dll") core.std.LoadPlugin(path="i:/Hybrid/64bit/vsfilters/SourceFilter/LSmashSource/vslsmashsource.dll") # Import scripts import havsfunc # source: 'G:\TestClips&Co\files\test.avi' # current color space: YUV420P8, bit depth: 8, resolution: 640x352, fps: 25, color matrix: 470bg, yuv luminance scale: limited, scanorder: progressive # Loading G:\TestClips&Co\files\test.avi using LWLibavSource clip = core.lsmas.LWLibavSource(source="G:/TestClips&Co/files/test.avi", format="YUV420P8", stream_index=0, cache=0, fpsnum=25, prefer_hw=0) # Setting color matrix to 470bg. clip = core.std.SetFrameProps(clip, _Matrix=5) clip = clip if not core.text.FrameProps(clip,'_Transfer') else core.std.SetFrameProps(clip, _Transfer=5) clip = clip if not core.text.FrameProps(clip,'_Primaries') else core.std.SetFrameProps(clip, _Primaries=5) # Setting color range to TV (limited) range. clip = core.std.SetFrameProp(clip=clip, prop="_ColorRange", intval=1) # making sure frame rate is set to 25 clip = core.std.AssumeFPS(clip=clip, fpsnum=25, fpsden=1) clip = core.std.SetFrameProp(clip=clip, prop="_FieldBased", intval=0) # adjusting frame count with Interframe/SVP clip = havsfunc.InterFrame(clip, Tuning="smooth", NewNum=60000, NewDen=1001, GPU=True) # new fps: 59.94 # converting progressive to interlaced for 'progressive to interlaced (1)' clip = core.std.SeparateFields(clip=clip, tff=True) clip = core.std.SelectEvery(clip=clip, cycle=4, offsets=[0, 3]) clip = core.std.DoubleWeave(clip=clip, tff=True) # resolution 640x352 clip = core.std.SelectEvery(clip=clip, cycle=2, offsets=0) # new fps: 29.97 clip = core.std.SetFrameProp(clip=clip, prop="_FieldBased", intval=2) # adjusting output color from: YUV420P8 to YUV422P10 for ProResModel clip = core.resize.Bicubic(clip=clip, format=vs.YUV422P10, range_s="limited") # set output frame rate to 29.97fps clip = core.std.AssumeFPS(clip=clip, fpsnum=30000, fpsden=1001) # Output clip.set_output()
  for me
  

Adding a new job and processing that job, creates:

Video ID : 1 Format : ProRes Format version : Version 0 Format profile : 422 Proxy Codec ID : apco Duration : 17 s 151 ms Bit rate mode : Variable Bit rate : 5 591 kb/s Width : 640 pixels Height : 352 pixels Display aspect ratio : 16:9 Frame rate mode : Constant Frame rate : 29.970 (30000/1001) FPS Color space : YUV Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2 Scan type : Interlaced Scan type, store method : Separated fields (2 fields per block) Scan order : Top Field First Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.828 Stream size : 11.4 MiB (100%) Writing library : Lavc

here.

=> works here.

Cu Selur

[Miranda]

Can I go also go from an NTSC 29.97i capture to upscaled 29.97i/59.94?

[Selur]

Sure.
NTSC 29.97 interlaced -> upscaled 29.97i:
Load the source, set output to interlaced and upscale.

NTSC 29.97 interlaced -> upscaled 59.94p:
Load the source, bob deinterlacing and upscaling.

NTSC 29.97 telecined -> upscaled 29.97i:
Load the source, set output to interlaced, apply IVTC, upscale, interpolate frames.
(instead of IVTC, one could also bob deinterlaced and use FillDrops to replace the duplicates with interpolated frames)

NTSC 29.97 telecined -> upscaled 59.94p:
Load the source, apply IVTC, upscale, interpolate frames.
(instead of IVTC, one could also bob deinterlaced and use FillDrops to replace the duplicates with interpolated frames)

Cu Selur

[Miranda]

The 29.97i capture is from an NTSC VHS which was originally shot in the UK on 25i video, then converted to 29.97 for its USA video release back in the 1990s. I'd like to leave it as 29.97i/59.94 for its USA Blu-ray premiere

I just tried the same settings I have been using for 25i and it seems to work OK.

[Miranda]

What is the difference between 29.97i and 59.94?

[Selur]

Different frame rates and one is interlaced while the other is progressive.

[Miranda]

Is there be any benefit to convert the 29.97 interlaced fields to 59.94 progressive frames? I've seen this done on some Blu-ray releases.

[Selur]

a. Not having the playback device having to deal with the deinterlacing. (Some devices do a good job, others don't. Clients are usually not happy if the content they are presented with shows combing artifacts, even when it's their equipment that is faulty)
b. While at it, additional filtering can be applied.
(+ you can sell a DVD->Blu-ray conversion, but better than a Blu-ray with 1:1 copied DVD content, even though the standard supports it)
c. Tons of DVD releases are a mess since folks mixed progressive, interlaced, telecined, field shifted content (thinking about tons of anime and sci-fi dvd releases). Handling progressive content in an NLE is more straight forward and thus hopefully avoids such botched up releases.
d. Encoding progressive content usually is more effective than encoding interlaced content. Newer formats more and more drop support for interlaced content.

[Miranda]

Would the 59.95 progressive file still have that "video" look? After all, the content I'm working with was shot on videotape. It would be a shame to lose the analogue appeal of the original videotape footage. I guess I can only try and see how it looks.

[Selur]

I guess I can only try and see how it looks.

Yup, best test it for yourself.